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December 2012

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If a Catholic Christian does not subscribe to absolutely every Catholic precept, is he or she a Protestant?

Answer by Br. Francis Therese Krautter:

Not subscribing to precepts does not cause one to become a Protestant.  There are five precepts one must follow to be in full communion with the Catholic Church and - as a Catholic - to avoid mortal sin.  They are listed here: Catechism of the Catholic Church.  Following these precepts is the absolute minimum required to be considered a practicing Catholic.  Not following those precepts makes you a “non-practicing Catholic.”

Protestantism is a rejection of specific teachings (or doctrines) coupled with new teachings considered heresy by the Catholic Church. 

Believing something that is not taught by the Church, but which is not specifically against the faith is considered heterodoxy.

If the non-adherence to Catholic teaching is willful it is considered formal heresy - if it is simply due to ignorance it is considered material heresy.

Rejection of some teachings of Catholicism makes you a heretic.  Rejection of Christianity makes you an apostate.  Rejecting the authority of the Catholic Church (while maintaining its teachings) makes you a schismatic.  So Protestantism is a schismatic and heretical movement.

Protestantism defines itself not as a “protest” against Catholicism, but as the “profession” of certain fundamental dogmas that are in fact opposed to Catholic dogma.  Protestantism also refers to the historical split with the Catholic Church during the Reformation.  Being a Protestant therefore requires belonging to a group that has its roots in the Reformation.

Not every non-Catholic (non-Orthodox) Christian is Protestant.  Anglicans are not Protestants for example - they did not split as part of the Reformation.  Some modern Evangelical Christians - though their doctrines resemble Protestant doctrines - do not trace their roots to a main-line Protestant group.

Unless you join a Protestant group, your heresy does not make you a Protestant.

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Dec 31, 2012

May 2012

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May 12, 2012

March 2012

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Br. Francis Therese's answer to How do Catholic priests remain celibate?

This is a daunting question, but merits a response.  Before talking about how someone could possibly remain celibate their whole life, we should be clear on exactly what is meant by being celibate, and why one would remain celibate.  Celibacy is one of three vows taken by religious (I am a consecrated Religious living my vows for almost ten years now) the other two being poverty and obedience.  Diocesan priests do not take a vow of poverty, but they do make a promise of obedience, and a vow of chastity.  The vows are formulated according to what are called the Evangelical Counsels, and are described in the scriptures by Christ Himself.

Focusing only on Chastity, the code of Canon law says this,

Can. 599 The evangelical counsel of chastity embraced for the sake of the Kingdom of heaven, is a sign of the worldto come, and a source of greater fruitfulness in an undivided heart. It involves the obligation of perfect continenceobserved in celibacy.


And this is not simply a pious idea invented later on by the Church, but comes directly from Christ’s own recommendation:

“Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some, because they were made so by others; some, because they have renounced marriage* for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it.”(Mt. 19:12)


Even Saint Paul has a recommendation in the same vein:

1 Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7 I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.

 8 Now to the unmarried[a] and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. 9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion. (1 Cor. 7)


So consecration to prayer and union with God is aided by abstaining from the sexual act (which itself is only licit with one’s spouse).  Since man is not simply made for woman, and woman is not simply made for man - but God has created them both to adore and contemplate Him - human nature can be finalized by the contemplation of God.  This requires going beyond the natural finality of human nature, but it is God Himself who - by creating spiritual beings - wills that their persons find ultimate fulfillment in Him.

The only way it is possible to keep a vow of Chastity is to be actively offering the inclinations of our nature to unite one’s person to God in contemplation.  When one does not devote much time or fervor to prayer, the vow no longer makes much practical sense, and then we see the phenomenon of repression or suppression of urges that lead one’s nature to an eventual revolt.  For those who are sincerely devoted to prayer, and to growth in virtue (which is not simply repression/suppression of urges), they truly become witnesses to the fact that God is the sovereign good - that He can and does completely fulfill human life.

How do Catholic priests remain celibate?
Mar 7, 2012

February 2012

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February 24, 2012: Friday after Ash Wednesday

Reading 1 Is 58:1-9a Responsorial Psalm Ps 51:3-4, 5-6ab, 18-19

 

Gospel Mt 9:14-15

 

First Friday of Lent, and today’s readings have an incredible teaching on fasting.  The first reading is a series of rebukes addressed to those who fast religiously but continue to live selfishly.  Fasting ought to break down our egoism, it ought to drive us to acts of mercy and compassion.  When we fast, we must fast from self - we must become less self-consumed.  The remedy to being self-satisfied, or full of oneself, is to fill our lives and hearts with the needs of others.  And that is the true fast because the only way to hunger and thirst for righteousness, for others and their needs, is to starve the ego of self.  ”Whoever loves his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it as eternal life.”

This leads us to meditate on the Gospel where we see Jesus defending his disciples’ apparent impenitence.  The true meaning of fasting is making room for the other, and in this case, making room for Jesus, the bridegroom.  God is wedded to our human nature, the Word is incarnate and seeking souls to espouse.  It is the moment of the espousal, it is the moment of the total gift of self - where God is totally giving Himself to men.  And this gift is received with great joy because Jesus, God, is present both physically and to the senses of His disciples.  After Jesus’ ascension, His presence can only be known by faith.  And faith is itself a kind of fasting - our humility and self-denial are the fasting in faith that makes room in our hearts for Christ.

Feb 24, 2012
Tuesday of the Seventh Week in Ordinary Time: Mardi Gras


Reading 1 Jas 4:1-10 Responsorial Psalm Ps 55:7-8, 9-10a, 10b-11a, 23 Gospel Mk 9:30-37

 

One day left before we start our Lenten Journey.  For many, the last day is a day of over-indulgence (even and perhaps especially those who are not even Catholic!)  Here in Salvador, Brazil the whole city is aflutter with the preparation and celebration of Carnaval - which makes what most of us from the USA call Mardi Gras seem tame and innocent by comparison.  The practice of Lenten fasting traditionally required the removal of fat and eggs from the diet, which is why whatever remained before Ash Wednesday had to be consumed to avoid waste.  The Church has always prescribed a different sort of preparation for Lent however: One possible etymology for Carnival comes from “carne levare” which means “taking away of flesh,” and the English “shrovetide” which comes from “shrive” which means “to hear confessions.”  The preparation for Lent is not indulgence, it is humility, it is an introspective and contemplative journey to discover the major obstacles we must overcome in order to return to the Lord.

Today’s first reading already encourage us on this path of humility, “God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”  And it rebuke us, “Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you of two minds.”  And it finally assures us of the path to holiness, and true greatness “Humble yourselves before the Lord and he will exalt you.”

The Gospel begins with a curious narration, “Jesus and his disciples left from there and began a journey through Galilee, but he did not wish anyone to know about it.”  The Lenten journey is a secret journey, because Jesus is preparing those closest to Him for an event they will only understand in retrospect.  The Cross is a mystery we can only understand in retrospect: everything Jesus teaches us on our Lenten journey will only truly make sense at Easter.  Jesus wants us to receive Him so that we may receive the Father who sent Him, and as Jesus humbles Himself every deeper through His passion, His weakness and death on the Cross, He becomes more childlike.  The mystery of the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world is the mystery of Christmas, the mystery of the God-Child, in its ultimate development.  Jesus is on a journey with His disciples, the Lamb becomes more like a child - revealing His Father’s love by His total trust and obedience even unto death.  The path to greatness is the Lamb’s way of the cross, it is a path of humility, it is a path of spiritual childhood - becoming children to discover the Father of the Lamb and His eternal love.

Feb 21, 2012

January 2012

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Br. Francis Therese's answer to Does the Bible acknowledge the existence of pagan gods?

An important factor to take into consideration is what is understood in the scriptures by the term “gods.” In the psalms we read, ” I have said to you, ‘You are gods, and all of you sons of the Most High.’ And yet you shall die like men, you shall perish like any of the princes.” And there are other places that speak of, ‘sons of God,’ etc.

The term god seems to indicate not necessarily divine or invisible beings, but beings with power or beings in proximity to God. The angels are also considered “sons of god.” The “divinities” of the Old Testament frequently took the form of idols - which were objects “made by human hands.” On this point, the scripture regularly ridicules the practice of worshipping said idols. It would seem that the temptation was not to actively think up or pray to other immaterial beings, but to fashion one’s own god by one’s own craft. Here is a great example of the critique those idols get in the psalms:

“Pagan idols are silver and gold,
the work of human hands.
They have mouths but they cannot speak
They have eyes but they cannot see.
They have ears but they cannot hear,
They have nostrils but they cannot smell.
With their hands they cannot feel,
With their feet they cannot walk,
No sound comes from their throats.
Their makers will come to be like them
And so will all who trust in them.
Sons of Jacob, trust in the Lord
— he is their help and their shield.” (Ps. 115)

The struggle in the Old Testament was not so much against heresey, but against the moral corruption that resulted from the cults rendered to idols (child sacrifices, fornication, superstition). It is a struggle much more at the level of the moral conscience of the people of God, rather than at the level of their intellectual capacity for metaphysics. “Proval or disproval” of the existence of God is a philosophical undertaking. The God of Israel proves himself morally by signs and wonders, and most importantly by His Word. The case for trusting this God is made on primarily moral grounds: by the promises He kept, by the mercy he has shown, by the relationship he has sought with His people. He is a God with no image in a time where all other divinities have physical representations. He is a God who reveals himself by name, “I am who I am,” or “I am who am,” to a people whose culture uses names to signify mission or destiny. God makes it known that His mission is to be the only God for Israel, because He is the true God.

The “Christian God,” or the Trinity, is God as revealed by the Word of God made flesh - Jesus. This is the same one and true God, but we are revealed God’s inner life - a life of self-gift, love, and truth. In the New Testament we discover that God’s mission to make himself known to humanity does not end with the people of Israel. The gift of the Holy Spirit is poured out upon all flesh - God is poured out upon all flesh (humanity). The gift of the knowledge of the true God is the gift of faith - this gift, by the incarnation of God’s Word, is given to all humanity, to all those who adhere to the Word in faith.

By faith, God proves Himself and thereby renders any other deity or competing idea secondary or null. Without faith, the Bible or Scriptures will not reveal or prove God. And even with faith, God does not seek to prove, He reveals Himself - with that revelation there is nothing left to prove at the level of faith. Philosophical proof is a different approach that, though secondary in the life of a believer, is not to be neglected.

Does the Bible acknowledge the existence of pagan gods?

Jan 5, 2012

December 2011

4 posts

Philosophy
Dec 26, 2011
Br. Francis Therese's answer to What is meant by "objective moral standards"?

I believe this idea is refering to the natural moral law. For some Christians, it was God’s revealing of this “natural law” on Mt. Sinai (ten commandments) that caused it to become objective. The process of self-justification that stems from pride in the sinner would seem to inhibit the “objectivity” of any alleged natural moral law. Therefore - according to that logic - without God’s intervention, because we are sinners we could never discover the natural moral order on our own.

Another idea I have heard from apologists - which would seem to fall into this category - is the idea that without a God that actually exists, there are no consequences for bad behavior. As long as you can get away with things you know or do not know to be wrong, there is no reason to involve your conscience. If God does not exist, we all just turn back to nothing - or dissolve into the ocean of evolving particles of consciousness that concentrate around and within the higher beings. There is, according to this view, no reason to try to follow some sort of moral code if God does not exist. If you can get away with killing someone for selfish motives and it will have no lasting repercussions, there is no objective reason not to do it. Admittedly, most of us live our lives this way - we weigh the consequences of our actions and the possible outcomes. If we might be able to get away with something that is conventionally considered “wrong,” we will probably consider doing it - if only momentarily - if that would be to our advantage.

I think that moral objectivity is possible without explicitly bringing God into the picture. Ethical activity is based on respecting others. We respect other people, because we want them in our lives - because we love them and love requires attention and respect. Friendship drives us to develop virtues - virtues that are needed in order to live in harmony with the people we love. These virtues extend beyond the people we love however - for example, when I recognize that my friends must be treated justly, I also become capable of seeing that people I don’t know should also be treated justly, and finally that people I do not love or even hate ought to be treated justly as well. Obviously, when one has little or no personal virtue, when one has no true friends, the objectiveness of morality is a bit of a long shot.

What is meant by “objective moral standards”?

Dec 14, 2011
Friday of the Second Week of Advent

Reading 1 Is 48:17-19 Responsorial Psalm Ps 1:1-2, 3, 4 And 6 Gospel Mt 11:16-19

A tree is to be judged by its fruits.  Wisdom is vindicated by her works.  In today’s Gospel Jesus compares the people of his generation to children in the marketplaces - he compares the attitudes of children with respect to adults to the attitudes of adults with respect to wisdom.  Children in the marketplace want adults to play along with them, but adults are typically too busy for non-sense.  Children interact socially with each other by means of play, games, pretending, etc.  Children do not understand or desire - nor are they even capable of - adult social interaction.  You can train them to be quiet in certain situations, to become progressively more sensitive to different social contexts and appropriate social interactions with adults, but none of that is spontaneous or natural for a child.  I remember something my mother often said to me when I was a boy, “Honey, you seem to be forgetting something: I’m the adult, you’re the child.”  As hard a time as our young egos can have with that reality, deep down we know it’s true - deep down we know as children that we depend upon our parents and other adults as much as we may dislike it; it isn’t until we become adolescents that we start struggle a true struggle for autonomy.

Today’s humanity likes to see itself as either adult or moving towards adulthood.  What that means, of course, is that we see ourselves as becoming independant from God - adolescence - and finally as gods ourselves - adulthood.  The only problem is, we depend upon God for our being - and that is something we cannot manage.  The sign we depend upon someone or something else for our being is death - the radical fracturing of our being.  When humanity tries to ignore or beat death (scientifically or intellectually), it is childishly avoiding the deeper question of being: being is more fundamental than life, and as much control as I may have over my life, my substantial autonomy is something I simply received - it is a gift I have been given but cannot myself give.  Parents can give life and freedom to their children, but they cannot give intelligence, they cannot give autonomy.  God gives intelligence and autonomy - God gives us substance - existence - and our capacity to know truth.  These are things we depend upon God for, and things we will never be able to get for ourselves or give to others.

This is Jesus’ criticism of the people of His generation.  They expect the Christ to correspond to the system they already control.  They expect the prophet (John the Baptist) to play along with their thoughts and ideas.  And when the Christ and the Pre-cursor do not cooperate, do not follow the “rules” of their game, the former are mocked, scorned, and rejected by the latter.  ”What has been hidden from the wise and the learned has been revealed to the merest of children.”  A child is perfect as a child when he recognizes and trusts the ones who take care of him, when he depends upon them.  Spiritual childhood is recognizing God as the source of our being, trusting that He knows best how to care for us though His ways may seem as foreign to us as those of an adult to a child.  Spiritual childhood is depending upon God as the Creator of one’s being, just as a child depends upon his Father for what he needs in life.  This is mystical wisdom, the wisdom of God’s children, this is the way in which Jesus wants us to resemble children.  Those who do not resemble children in this way will resemble the children in today’s Gospel: playing in the marketplace and demanding God to follow the rules they have made.  In the end, even if the children continue to stubbornly insist on having their way, God will not stop the work He has begun.  Even a humanity who rejects her Savior will not discourage that Savior from the total loving gift of Himself on the cross.  ”Even if a mother were to abandon her child, I will never abandon you.”  Wisdom is not vindicated by persuasively convincing, Wisdom is vindicated by her works.  The work of wisdom is the victory of love.  The victory of love is not convincing someone to return that love - it is the loving gift of self despite the cost, the risk, despite the fact that there may be no love in return.  Wisdom is vindicated by the Cross.

 

Dec 9, 2011
Tuesday of the Second Week of Advent

Reading 1 Is 40:1-11

Responsorial Psalm Ps 96:1-2, 3 And 10ac, 11-12, 13 Gospel Mt 18:12-14

 

Today’s Gospel is the parable of the lost sheep, and it is paired with a beautiful reading from Isaiah.  A message of comfort, and a message of purification.  The Word of God comforts: “Speak tenderly to Jerusalem, and proclaim to her that her service is at an end, her guilt is expiated;” “Like a shepherd he feeds his flock; in his arms he gathers the lambs, Carrying them in his bosom, and leading the ewes with care.” So often God is seen as the big police-man in the sky, waiting for us to slip up then to explode with divine anger.  But God is like a shepherd: the shepherds were the outsiders of the Jewish community because they put the care of their sheep before even religious obligations.  We are so important to God that even His religious obligations come second - but God doesn’t have religious obligations as it were; God puts the care of us His creatures ahead of Himself.

The Word of God also purifies: “The rugged land shall be made a plain, the rough country, a broad valley.  Then the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all people shall see it together; for the mouth of the LORD has spoken.” “All flesh is grass, and all their glory like the flower of the field.  The grass withers, the flower wilts, when the breath of the LORD blows upon it.  So then, the people is the grass.  Though the grass withers and the flower wilts, the word of our God stands forever.”  God’s Word goes before Him, and prepares a way to meet Him.  The way of God and His glory are made clear through His Word.  God’s Word pierces the very marrow of our bones, the flesh of man and his glory are as nothing before the Word of God.  The Word of God is powerful, direct, and glorious.

How do these two qualities of the Word of God help us understand today’s Gospel?  The Word of God is our Shepherd.  We are led by this Word, comforted by this Word, purified by this Word.  Jesus is the Word, and when He speaks he comforts and purifies.  ”What is your opinion,” He asks.  He asks because He knows that no normal shepherd would abandon 99 sheep to try to find one that is lost; only the Good Shepherd.  Jesus’ Word purifies the minds of His disciples;  no one is unimportant to God - and the one who is lost becomes His priority.  This is also God’s Word of comfort: “…it is not the will of your heavenly Father that one of these little ones be lost..”

Dec 6, 2011

November 2011

2 posts

Br. Francis Therese's answer to If there really is a God how can there be atheists?

“If the Bible and my brain are both the work of the same Infinite God, whose fault is it that the book and my brain do not agree?” - Robert G. Ingersoll


“In the beginning was the Word (Logos), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning turned towards God. Through Him all things were made, and without Him was made nothing that exists. In Him was life and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it…

The true light that enlightens every man entered into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him not. He came unto his own, and His own received Him not. But to all those who receive Him, who believe in His name, He has given power to become children of God… And the Word was made flesh and dewlt among us…” (John 1:1-5, 9-12,14)


I thought it would be interesting to include the way the Christian scriptures view this question/objection. So, this is not a philosophical response, but a response from Christian Revelation. A Christian Theological background is probably essential in order to grasp all the different elements at work here: 

  1. The Analogy of the Word of God
  2. The Creation of Man in God’s Image and Likeness
  3. The Incarnation

  • First note on the analogy of the Word of God: God did not create the Bible, the Holy Spirit inspired human authors with His Word. God has spoken only one Word, and it is this Word which is the perfect expression of the divine essence. This Word is the fruit of God’s contemplation of His divine essence. This Word is not simply an idea, or concept - it is a person. The Word is not simply the fruit of God’s contemplation, He (the Word) is also the Creator - the One through whom all things were made. The fruit of God’s intellect is the Word, the work of the Word is Creation.
  • Note on the creation of man in God’s image and likeness: God’s image is His Word (the eternal Logos), and He is Spirit (intellect and will). Created in His image and likeness means created in His Wordand as a spiritual being. The “life” of the Word, is the “light” of our intellect. Our minds are sparks of light that issue forth from the glowing ember of the eternal Word. Even though human intellects share a bond with the eternal Word - the bond of a created intellect with its source - not all minds recognize or seek out that source. John talks about “receiving” the source of true light, “believing” in His name.

    The phrase “believing in His name.” must be correctly understood too - I fear that many interpret this as some kind of magic formula. As if thinking the name Jesus (which has not been mentioned in the text up to this point by the way), in an arbitrary fashion, has magical and salutory effects. I prefer to try to break this down into parts: believing is an act of intellect and will (the merit of which depends upon many factors), and the act doing something “in someone’s name” means acting with someone else’s power, authority, or on their behalf. “Believing in His (the Word’s) name,” means, therefore, posing an act of intellet and will that leans on the source of our intellect - the true light.

    Those who seek and/or recognize the source of their intellect and being (who receive Him) He gives the power to become God’s children - to be spiritually begotten by the source of spirit and being.


If there really is a God how can there be atheists?
Nov 14, 2011
Br. Francis Therese's answer to Should assisted suicide be made legal?

I will be brief as there are already very well thought out and interesting replies to this question.

The conviction that death represents some kind of good is replete with a priori assumptions about what death is. In the common experience of man, death is not something you live to tell about. Death may be the cessation of physical and/or psychological suffering (it would seem) but who’s to say it is not the beginning of intense spiritual suffering? Who’s to say that separation from the body is not the cause of an even greater spiritual suffering? Of course, convinced positivists will claim that the spiritual doesn’t exist - but that is just one worldview. Just laws cannot be built upon ideologies, and I think it is safe to say that the idea that death is sometimes better than life is simply that - an idea. Suffering is something that ought to be alieviated as much as possible when the person requests it - though perhaps not at all costs - but death only eliminates the physical phenomena of suffering that we are able to measure. I find it a bit too hasty to claim that death necessarily represents a greater good in some circumstances - to know that, you would have to know beyond a doubt what is (or isn’t) after death.

Should assisted suicide be made legal?

Nov 13, 2011

October 2011

6 posts

Br. Francis Therese's answer to What precisely was the knowledge that god didn't want Adam & Eve to have?

I’ve thought a lot about this question in the past. The only other person to mention the Tree of Life in their answer was Mary W. Matthews, which I find, personally, essential to understanding the nature of the knowledge of good and evil.

When the man was kicked out of Paradise, it was for the precise reason that he might “put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever.” The fruit of the Tree of Life was never forbidden by God, and I think it is safe to say that if Adam had eaten of the Tree of Life first, it would have broken the curse associated with the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. In Deuteronomy 30:15,19 the Lord says, “I have set before you life and good, death and evil;… choose life in order that you may live, you and your descendants.” The knowledge of good and evil is a mixed knowledge - it is a mixture of what comes from God in Creation, and of what God did not create: evil. The knowledge of evil is a burden, and bearing this knowledge is sometime more than a person can bear - something we all experience. Bearing the knowledge of sin (knowledge in the sense of experience as well as in the abstract sense), be it our own sins, or the sins of others, weighs down our life - leads to death.

Having the knowledge of good and evil means we don’t have to consult God to decide the difference. We judge the difference from our conscience - but there is nothing forcing us to follow our conscience. What first resulted from the knowledge of good and evil was the knowledge of nakedness and shame. The knowledge that the purpose of human sexuality is for the total unambiguous gift of self - becoming one flesh with another - and that that selfless gift is itself fruitful (procreation), becomes shameful. It becomes a shameful because man’s decision to become the arbiter between good and evil (eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil) was simultaneously his decision to place himself at the center of his life - rather than another, and ultimately The Other. Man becomes ashamed of his nakedness because it manifests to others the full and total life-giving gift of himself, something he is no longer able to display in truth - because he has placed himself ahead of others by an act of pride. The only way for man to recover his dignity - to present himself to the world in truth - is for him to clothe himself, to hide the organ used to bring new life into the world. We clothe ourselves not just to stay warm, but because we have something to hide - we were made to give ourselves completely, but our egos get in the way. Had we received the knowledge of good and evil from God, our discernment would include God’s perspective - but Adam chose to take the knowledge rather than receive it.

The other important consequence to look at is Adam and Eve’s sudden fear of God. Not holy fear (fear and trembling), but servile fear. They lose their trust in God’s goodness. The consequence of taking it upon oneself to become the arbiter between good and evil, is fear of the Creator. The Creator’s goodness is no longer clear to man, because man has placed his own interests - his ego - ahead of the Creator’s. Man is afraid that what he discerns by himself to be good, will differ from what the Creator says is good. Man is afraid that the will of his Creator will not correspond to his own will, and therefore will not correspond to what is good for himself. Man no longer trusts God. Man is no longer able to trust that God only wants what is good for him. Man would rather figure it out on his own, even if he might be wrong - though he would not readily admit that possibility. Man no longer sees clearly that the Creator of his happiness wants him to achieve that happiness. So man hides from God.

There are a couple of important verses in the New Testament which I believe shed an important light on this mysterious illumination. Adam and Eve are described as “having their eyes opened, and knowing that they were naked.” We see the disciples of Emmaus whose eyes are opened to recognize the risen Lord, when He blesses the bread, breaks it, and gives it to them. This knowledge also comes via food, but it is a knowledge given by God, not one taken by man - it is a knowledge of faith. All of salvation history, after the fall of man, has been God trying to convince man of His love for him, and God’s desire to be with man and lead man to happiness. This knowledge is given in its greatest manifestation through Jesus’ death on the cross - God loved the world so much that He sent His son to die for us - to give us life. God is not a stranger to suffering, and He knows that suffering is what causes our greatest complaints, and can be our greatest obstacle to trust Him. What the knowledge of good and evil made it so hard for us to know (the unconditional love and goodness of God), the knowledge of faith comes to heal. We could also say that by the knowledge of faith we conquer the deadly effects of the knowledge of good and evil, and are once again granted to eat of the fruit of the Tree of Life, “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who conquers I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.” (Rev. 2:7)

God did not want us to live forever in fear and shame, He needed to heal the wounds (self-inflicted) from the knowledge of good and evil before eternal life would be our bliss. He heals these wounds by a new knowledge of his love for us - a knowledge of faith, a knowledge that is given, not taken.

What precisely was the knowledge that god didn’t want Adam & Eve to have?

Oct 30, 2011
Br. Francis Therese's answer to Morals & Morality: Should people develop a more nuanced sense of "good" and "evil"?

Does right and wrong change with time? No. But our discernment as a society of the difference between right and wrong should become progressively deeper and more nuanced. Certain moral questions we deal with today were never dealt with in the past, we have to deal with them in a modern society because of new technical means, new ideologies, etc.

The difference between art and ethics is that artistic means are predetermined whereas ethical means always depend upon a whole slew of conditions. “The end justifies the means,” only in art (or ideology), ethically this would never stand. Nuanced does not mean “relativism” either. Suggesting that the only absolute is that there are no absolutes is a logical fallacy. So even a nuanced moral code is at least open to the fact that ethical absolutes could exist - that some acts are perhaps intrinsically wrong. Generally murder and stealing are considered intrinsically morally wrong - but what actually constitutes murder or stealing must be nuanced. Death at the hand of another is not always murder. Taking something from someone is not always stealing.

Every society needs moral clarity, but a modern society needs to become intelligent and more nuanced to have clarity. What we see far more often in the modern world is subjectivism and auto-justification based on values or nuances that need only be admitted by the individual to be valid. Sincerity replaces truth.

Should people develop a more nuanced sense of “good” and “evil”?

Oct 22, 2011
Br. Francis Therese's answer to Why did G-D pick only the ancient Israelites to be His Chosen People?

The short answer is Abraham’s faith. Abraham responded to God’s call in an extraordinary way, and I don’t know if we find examples of that kind of faith with other historical figures in other places. It would be interesting to know more about other historical religious figures in other places/cultures. Abraham believes firmly in God’s promises, doesn’t demand signs, and is even prepared to sacrifice his only son - the one through whom God said he would become father of many nations - because of his unflinching faith in the Lord.

After the exile in Egypt, God begins to fashion His chosen people to become a light for all the nations. But becoming God’s chosen people required much sacrifice and many who refused to hold fast in faith simply perished. Sure, from one angle it would seem that God was playing favorites by picking Israel to be his chosen people - but the reflection of the chosen people (in the scriptures) is often, “How could you treat your chosen people so badly? Our enemies plunder us at will… etc.” God’s chosen people did not take a walk in the park - this people’s history has been full of suffering and pain.

One of the questions listed in the description has to do with why God doesn’t just illuminate every nation separately. But to be completely equal, you’d really have to ask why God doesn’t just illuminate every individual with the same revelation so that everyone has an equal opportunity. First there is the problem with illumination and freedom - God wants man to choose happiness freely, so God does not impose his light. If we saw God for who He is, His goodness would impose itself as an evidence beyond refute. God also wants us to depend upon each other - to become one human family, united in love. If every nation were totally independent with respect to the question of God, it would cause an even greater rift between peoples… the only thing that would unite us would be the economy - today we see how precarious a situation that can become.

The divine economy is a series of mediators. God likes to multiply his graces by causing those who receive his graces to also become instruments of grace for others. What begins as an exclusive choice by God, becomes channels and channels of grace for the whole of humanity. God doesn’t just want to connect with us, he wants us to connect with each other. The love of God is not just a one on one affair with God, it is something God wants to have binding together the whole of humanity. We must all receive before we can give, and God chose to have us receive through his chosen people in the person of Jesus. We are called then to share the love we’ve received, the message of hope, our faith. God wants all of humanity to enter into relationships of inter-dependency and love. He does not want the different nations so full of culture and rich in diversity to turn in on themselves with feelings of superiority over or independence from the rest of humanity.

Why did G-D pick only the ancient Israelites to be His Chosen People?

Oct 11, 2011
Br. Francis Therese's answer to Philosophy: What can we know?

In realistic philosophy, knowing is the vital process by which reality is reborn subjectively (immanently) in the knower. I like to think that the word knowing - coming from the Greek word gnosis - is closely related to the word genesis, which is the word for an organic beginning. Through our experiences of the world around us, seeds of knowledge germinate within us - in the soul.

So, what we can know is reality - being - and being exists in many ways. We know by our senses - color, sound, flavor, hot/cold and wet/dry, odor. We also know the synthesis we make of these qualities: our imagination. Finally, we know the intelligible form - what something is. Our knowledge of the world around us comes to us primarily by means of our senses, but we must use our mind in conjunction with our senses to know the world around us intelligently.

Our ability to see is ordered to our knowledge of what reality is. It is by looking at something that I can most easily know what something is. Looking is what we most commonly do to answer the question, “What is it?”

Our ability to hear is ordered to our knowledge of where a reality is, its origin. It is by listening to something that I can most easily know where it is. Mothers recognize different cries from their child - cries of hunger, of discomfort, of fatigue. We can know when someone we love is speaking sincerely, or out of anger, or without thinking by the sound of their voice. Listening is what we most commonly do to answer the question, “Where does it come from?” or “What is its origin?”

Our ability to touch is ordered to our knowledge of what a reality is made of, its matter. It is by touching something that we can most easily know its transformability, how sturdy it is, how it reacts to the physical world. Touching is what we most commonly do to answer the question, “What is it made of?”

Our ability to smell is ordered to our knowledge of what a reality is good for, by smelling I can most easily know its finality or purpose. Smelling something lets me know what is attractive and what is repulsive - what is conducive to living well, and what is a hindrance. Smelling is what we most commonly do to answer the question in nature, “What is it good for?”

Our ability to taste is ordered to our knowledge of what a reality is like, its model. When I taste, I can most easily detect balance or imbalance in mixtures. Granted, we do not generally taste things we don’t plan on eating, and we already have the idea that something is good to eat by smelling it, taste gives us a more detailed knowledge of mixtures. Tasting is what most commonly do to answer the question, “What is it like?”

The five causes are the five ways one attempts to know reality by one’s intellect and senses. So, as we have seen, they are: 1. The Formal Cause: What something is. 2. The Efficient Cause: Where something is from, the origin. 3. The Material Cause: What something is made of, matter. 4. The Final Cause: What something is for, the finality. 5. The Exemplary Cause: What something is like, its model or structure, the idea.

What can we know?

Oct 6, 2011
Br. Francis Therese's answer to Religion: Which groups of people interpret religious stories in a non-literal way?

After reading the responses, I would like to suggest that the problem of “literality” is a specifically modern and Christian problem. In Ancient Greece we saw the passage from mythos to logos, a process which was - to my knowledge - one of a kind at the time. The more radical of these thinkers, Socrates in particular, was executed (or rather condemned to commit suicide… a truly bizarre thing to consider) for “impiety.” By his example, he encouraged the young - voluntarily or involuntarily - to question preconceived notions (on piety, courage, friendship, the soul, knowledge itself.) Socrates is the hero of all philosophers - the one who has not come to destroy knowledge, but to seek truth. The fundamental intuition of all these Greek thinkers was that the myths did have a “logos,” a reason, something intelligent to say about existence - and that by unlocking the logos they would become wise. The myths dealt with the right questions, the right problems, the big picture, but they did not do so clearly enough. The philosophers, especially Socrates, understood that the right question is far more important than the right answer when it comes to seeking wisdom. Removing these questions from their mythical contexts, - questions on creation, the soul, being, oneness, the divine, etc - and placing them in the context of human experience, of one’s personal experience - and of what one actually knows from personal experience - was the radical revolution wrought by Socrates. This is the process of separating the irrational from the rational, the imaginary from the real, the feeling from the existential. It is a philosophical process, not a hermaneutical process. A process of reflection, not of interpretation.

Literal vs. non-literal is, as the question suggests, a question situated at the level of interpretation. No one in their right mind would suggest that a story communicates zero truth just because some aspects of it were made up - or that the reason people tell stories is to communicate lies. At that point, you might as well say that all art is a lie (when it doesn’t materially reproduce nature.) Art isn’t a lie, storytelling isn’t lying, but interpretation is implicitly required. Philosophy draws truths out of the context of myths or stories and treats them rationally within the context of human experience. Interpretation draws meanings from myths or stories while trying to remain in context.

Catholic teaching has always seen the literal sense of biblical texts as the essential meaning upon which all other meanings are based. There are other meanings contained within the literal meaning (St. Thomas Aquinas resumes them as the allegorical, anagogical, and moral interpretations) referred to as spiritual meanings. But the literal meaning of the text (as it is understood in Catholic Theology) is the one the author intended to communicate - taking into account the audience, the cultural context, the literary style, etc - which is distinct but not separate from the spiritual meaning.

At the time of the reform and the enlightenment, sometimes what was preached was far enough from the literal meaning of the bible, that radical reformers refused all spiritual meanings in an effort to return to orthodoxy. An effort of purification that often led to oversimplification, and heterodoxy. This was the beginning of modern exegesis. Often, modern biblical exegesis is a scientific study of the scriptures that requires one to remove faith from the equation. An “objective” exegetical approach, according to this logic, is one outside an act of faith.

For me, as a Catholic, interpreting religious stories in a “non-literal” way would mean “taking them out of context,” or “projecting upon them something unintended…” both of which correspond to human tendency. At the same time, I recognize that the word “literal” has taken on a new meaning today - one that corresponds much more to the word “material” in my opinion. So the question becomes, “Which groups interpret religious stories in a non-material way?” Which groups interpret religious stories in a spiritual way? Which groups interpret religious stories while ignoring the concrete details? Which groups interpret religious stories in a non-factual way?

All Christians recognize certain facts present in the scriptures as indeed historical fact: the death and resurrection of Christ, miracles, etc. Some Christians read the Bible as though it were a modern history book, which is about as “non-literal” as you can get. Many Christians, however, are not sure what they should consider to be historically factual and what they should consider to be literary devices. Few Christians take the time to study the texts and the context close enough to make an educated decision, and only Catholics believe that the Church’s Magisterium has the authoritative interpretation of the scriptures (which has been passed down but also extensively validated through methods of textual criticism).

I think then, that the “literal/non-literal” question boils down to two things: 1. the influence of Positivism and Rationalism on the modern mind and the way it forces all we receive through filters of scientific accuracy and mathematical reason. 2. the quest for authority in matters of interpretation. So, those Christians who take the scriptures without faith will either reject them on scientific or logical principles, or accept them as stories loosely based on fact - or simply as myths. Those Christians who do read the scriptures with faith, then, either see the bible as needing no interpretation - as “literally true;” as needing an interpretation that comes to the individual directly from the Holy Spirit; as needing an interpretation that comes from study; or as needing an interpretation that implies both the motion of the Holy Spirit and study and is also confirmed and taught by the Church.

I think that Christians who interpret the scriptures in a specifically non-literal way do so without faith. Christians who interpret the scriptures in a “literal”/material way are considered fundamentalists and considered Fideists by the Catholic Church. Christians who try to get the literal meaning - the intended meaning - are mainline Christians and Catholics as well. The only difference with Catholics is that they have recourse to the Church as an authority in matters of interpretation.

Which groups of people interpret religious stories in a non-literal way?

Oct 6, 2011
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